Methodist Debate

A petition campaign by United Methodist Bishops, Clergy, and laypeople against the Bush Library-Museum-Institute has kicked off a fascinating debate. The United Methodist Church has half of the positions on SMU’s board, and if I am not mistaken is technically the legal owner of SMU. In the late 80s, after the football scandal, the Church stepped in to insist on structural and governance reform.

On January 31, the Methodist Petition organizers issued a press release regarding the results of their petition drive to date and their intention to continue the drive.

Click here to see and sign the petition at ProtectSMU.org.

UPDATE: This petition began circulating on January 17, 2007. As of February 2, 2007, it had gathered 9,994 signatures, many of them alumni, faculty, and others with strong ties to the university.

There is also a counter-petition, titled, “Protect SMU From The “Leftist Bush-Hate Kooks” Opposing The Bush Presidental Library Being @ SMU!”

UPDATE: This petition started on January 18, 2007. As of February 3, 2007, it boasted a grand total of 101 signatures, 12 of which were Anonymous, at least 3 people had signed twice, and most of the rest appeared to be friends and family. Only a few actually identified themselves as as students, alumni, faculty, or Methodists. While the “Protect SMU” petition organizers keep up hostile postings, the organizers of the counter-petition deleted a sensible reply by Susanne Johnson, which you can see by clicking here.

See also:

“The Bush think tank: A giant Trojan horse among the Ponies?” Andrew Weaver and George Crawford, SMU Daily Campus, January 18, 2007

Religion frames Bush library debate,” Eileen E. Flynn, Austin American-Statesman, January 24, 2007

Readers Support, Oppose Bush Library at SMU,” UM NeXus E-pistles, January 24, 2007

Think Twice, SMU,” Tim Kumfer, God’s Politics, January 31, 2007

Letters to the Editor, United Methodist Reporter Interactive, February 1, 2007

Methodist Bishops Back Library,” DMagazine.com, February 5, 2007

Here’s a W library starting point,” GetReligion.org, February 8, 2007

“Bush library puts backs up,” Pat Ashworth, Church Times, February 16, 2007

Methodists Call for Expulsion of Bush, Cheney From Church,” February 18, 2007

The Power of Words:Why I Want the Bush Presidential Library at SMU,” Rebekah Miles, United Methodist Nexus, February 21, 2007

Methodists approve leasing SMU land for Bush library,” Angela K. Brown, Associated Press, March 14, 2007

Report on Methodist Council Meeting,” Benjamin Johnson, March 14th, 2007

ADDRESS TO MISSION COUNCIL, South Central Jurisdiction, William K. McElvaney, Professor Emeritus, Perkins School of Theology, SMU, March 14, 2007

SMU Gets Go-Ahead on Bush Complex Lease,” Cynthia B. Astle, UnitedMethodistNexus.org, March 15, 2007

UMC leaders OK Bush library plan,” Holly K. Hacker, Dallas Morning News
, March 15, 2007

Methodist council approves land lease for Bush library,” Mark Norris, SMU Daily Campus, March 20, 2007

Those articles of incorporation: An Inconvenient Truth,” Susanne Johnson, SMU Daily Campus, March 20, 2007

A preview of a partisan presidential think tank,” Andrew Weaver, SMU Daily Campus, March 30, 2007

Methodists split over Bush think tank plan,” Alex Spillius, The Telegraph, April 13, 2007

Here’s some coverage of the petition within the Methodist Church of the United Kingdom:

Methodist minister says Bush link would associate church with torture,” Ekklesia, January 21, 2007

US Methodists continue to push against Bush library plans,” Ekklesia, February 1, 2007

23 Responses to Methodist Debate

  1. heber4 says:

    Here are some interesting excerpts from the petition:

    AME Clergy. As a Perkins alum, I am proud of their spirit of dissent which allows those of us who possess private reservations (regarding the placement of the George W. Bush Library and Bush Institute on SMU )to have a public forum from which to voice them. Historical accounts will reveal that Perkins led the way in their concern for SMU’s legacy. As an aside, it is interesting that George W. Bush’s own alma mater, Yale University wasn’t among the presidential library site contestants. What do they know that SMU doesn’t want to admit?
    7542 W. Russell Wood Graduate of Southwestern University, Georgetown, Texas Lifelong member of the Methodist Church Current Member of University United Methodist Church. San Antonio, Texas
    7543 jennifer kennedy no comment
    7544 Gania Demaree Trotter 4th generation Methodist. Great, great grandfather was know as the Mountain Bishop of Kentucky,(George Daniel Demaree); my grandparents were Methodist missionaries to Japan.1897 to 1936. Rev. T.W.B. Demaree and his wife Gania Holland Demaree. My son-in-law is a United Methodist Minister at First United Methodist, Burbank California. I am married to a Methodist minister, Dr. F. Thomas Trotter, former General Secretary of the Board of Higher Education. I h ave served as Director of Development at Claremont School of Theology and Alaska Pacific University, during my husband’s tenure as President of those institutions. Prior to that I served as Minister of Music at Anaheim, and Claremont Methodist Churches.

  2. Editor says:

    Isn’t the petition great?

    7879 Anonymous First United Methodist Church of Desoto. Please don’t ruin the beautiful SMU campus by putting the Village Idiot Library on the campus.

    7888 Rev. Dr. Barbara A. Bellus Pastor, Epworth United Methodist Church, Portland, Oregon: Elder in full connection, Oregon-Idaho Annual Conference, Alum of Perkins School of Theology, SMU, M.Th., 1980; D.Min., 1981. Ph.D., 1997, University of Oregon, Eugene. I am a scholar as well as a pastor. My doctoral work is in U.S. History. I would be appalled to have the Bush museum, and even worse, a think tank beholden to this administration and its mindset, established at Southern Methodist University. The linking of the failed policies and abuses of this presidency to the name United Methodist is completely outrageous. I would be utterly ashamed, which I already am that our President holds the title “United Methodist”, to have a Bush Library sited at the place where I learned about the truth of the Gospel, and the nature of prophetic ministry, that the claims of our Christian faith are far above the claims of idolatrous nationalism and rampant violence.

    7889 Michael L. O\’Neal I am an alumns of SMU, having earned three degrees from the school. While leaving a Dallas Symphony Concert today I overheard a woman comment to another \”I do not want any recognition of that evil man associated my alma mater\”. There was a quiet but unanimous concurrence from those arround her. There was no question abuot the person to which she was referring. Yes, I joined the \”chorus of concurrence\” with hearfelt feeling.

  3. Steve says:

    Since President G. W. Bush is a member of The Brownwood Mafia, his library should be built in Brownwood Texas. To view more reasons why Brownwood Texas would be the perfect match for Bush’s Library, and to sign the BuildBushLibraryInBrownwood petition, visit

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/BuildBushLibraryInBrownwood/index.html

  4. heber4 says:

    Here’s a blast within the debate . . .

    8679 Ann Ellison
    I haven’t seen a signer on here who could possibly be a Christian. Too much vile hate and lies. Looks as if most of you are the usual suspects who think the world owes you a living and are filled witth pathological hate because President Bush thinks you ought to earn your living. He has taken a firm stand against terrorism to protect the American people and of course the wishy-washy no-brain liberal nuts can’t stand that. The pointy-headed religious officials on here are the biggest boneheads of all. They are the epitome of self-righteousness, and have never proved they have the answers to any of societys problems. No wonder libs are so dangerous. No values,,.no morals, and no common sense. The Bible calls them “wolfs in sheeps clothing.”

  5. Editor says:

    Those are so funny, since they really demonstrate who the intolerant “kooks” are — and the anti-petition had all of 61 sigs, last time I checked!

  6. Andrew Weaver says:

    Methodism Madness

    Methodism Madness –IRD ATTACKS BISHOPS ABOUT SMU

    Ben,

    This is a neocon-think tank called the Institute on Religion and Democracy (IRD) in DC—- The Bush Institute on Democracy at SMU would be IRD on steroids–Bush’s good friend– Richard John Neuhaus founded this think tank to attack progressive Protestants in 1981–

    Andrew Weaver
    http://www.protectsmu.org

    The Bush think tank: A giant Trojan horse among the Ponies?

    Andrew Weaver and George Crawford, Contributing Writers

    Issue date: 1/18/07 Section: Opinion

    The United Methodist Church has been under attack from a comparatively small neo-conservative think tank called the Institute on Religion and Democracy for 25 years, which spends about half million dollars a year relentlessly bashing the UMC for its social conscience. Yet President Bush told Time Magazine in 2005 that the founder of IRD and present board member, neo-conservative Catholic priest Richard John Neuhaus, is a trusted advisor (4).

    When President Bush met with religious journalists in May 2004, the religious authority he cited most often was not a fellow United Methodist or even another Protestant. It was a man the president affectionately calls “Father Richard” who, the President explained to Time in 2005, “helps me articulate these [religious] things.” A senior administration official confirmed to Time that Neuhaus “does have a fair amount of under-the-radar influence” on such policies as abortion, stem-cell research, cloning and the defense-of-marriage amendment (4).

    Imagine what IRD and other neo-conservatives could do with $500 million and the ex-president’s continued support at SMU!

    Southern Methodist University’s mission statement says “The University is dedicated to the values of academic freedom and open inquiry and to its United Methodist heritage. Those who have been loyal to SMU and the United Methodist Church deserve to have an open and comprehensive debate about the Bush project over the next several months before any formal agreement is approved.”

    About the writers:

    Andrew J. Weaver, Ph.D., is a United Methodist minister and research psychologist living in New York City. He can be reached at aweaver747@aol.com. He is a 1978 graduate of Perkins School of Theology at SMU. He has co-authored 12 books including: Counseling Survivors of Traumatic Events (Abingdon, 2003) and Reflections on Grief and the Spiritual Journey (Abingdon, 2005).

    George W. Crawford, Ph.D., Professor of Physics, SMU, 1963-1992, Professor Emeritus teaching one course per year, 1993-2005. Elected to serve on the Methodist Board of Christian Social Concerns (now Church and Society) from 1960-72. Long time member of Northaven United Methodist Church in Dallas.

    References:

    (1) W library in record book $500M center would be priciest for a Prez by Thomas M. DeFrank, nydailynews.com/front/story/ 475052p-399492c.html.

    (2) Dubya’s Tower of Babel by Bill Berkowitz, mediatransparency.com/story.php?storyID=171.

    (3) Battle Tanks: How think tanks shape the public agenda. Center for Media and Democracy by Bob Burton, prwatch.org/prwissues/2005Q4/battle-tanks.

    (4) Neocon Catholics target mainline Protestants by Andrew Weaver, mediatransparency.com/story.php?storyID=142.

  7. Andrew Weaver says:

    Comments on http://www.protectsmu.org good bad and ugly

    9020 Linda Pasley Highland Park United Methodist My immediate family holds 6 degrees from SMU– and have been longtime Park Cities residents–we all strongly oppose the Bush Library.

    9025 JAMES RICHARD WEAVER, JR. long time United Methodist member SMU Mustang Club double graduate from SMU \’61 and \’64 we got over the death penalty in athletics but this boondoogle is permanent !

    9026 Dr. Laura Stivers Associate Professor of Religion and Philosophy Pfeiffer University (Methodist affiliated) Misenheimer, North Carolina

    8954 T. Walter Herbert First United Methodist Church, Georgetown Retired after 30 years at Southwestern University, a Methodist institution. President Bush has grossly violated Methodist social principles in initiating an unprovoked war of aggression in Iraq, in sponsoring torture, and in violating God-given rights of American citizens that are defined in the Constitution he is sworn to uphold.

    8909 Ambra Reedy Hyde Pard United Methodist, Austin,Texas As a fifth generation methodist, I object to the Bush library being a part of the United Methodist Church!

    8914 Aimie Coe My family supports the President. Have any of you appeasers criticized the islamic radicals? Have you criticized professor churchills remarks at the U of Colorado calling the 9-11 victims “little Eichmanns?” We all know the answer! You posture and pontificate about academic freedom and institutions being a place to hear all sides and seek the truth. Your hypocritical actions show this to be another of your lies. You only want to hear viewpoints that fit yur narrow liberal views, and you try to squash all others. Tell me, what is the differance between you and the taliban? None, that I can see..

    8936 Stan Current Roman Catholic, Denver, Colorado. I was living in Omaha, Nebraska in February 2003 when the United Methodist Church of Omaha held an interdenominational prayer service and forum against going to war in Iraq. There was a large turnout, standing room only. We were all opposed to President Bush and his plan to invade Iraq. I was impressed that the Methodist Church had the courage to sponsor this event and voice opposition to President Bush when so many were in support of him. It is sad that the SMU Administration still supports President Bush. They obviously share his lack of honesty and ethics. They are more intererested in prestige and financial gain in housing Bush’s library. I believe that God disapproves of President Bush and his bloody war in Iraq. It would be wrong for SMU to honor such a man with so much blood on his hands and failure to follow through on his campaign promises, most notably, funding for faith-based initiatives.

    8944 Hal Hefner Wonder why the methodist church is losing members and students in their schools at a rapid rate. Just look at the opinions on this petition. You would think they would fire thir board of bishops instead of depending on them for guidance. No wonder President Bush declined to meet with them concerning our preemptive strike at Iraq. They can’t even run a sucessful denomination and keep it thriving, let alone have any concept of what dangers lurk for this country from the terrorists. Isn’t it true that the same genre of religious adviser were telling the British and French governments that Hitler was not a threat and could be reasoned with in the ’30s? See where that led us! God forbid that these false leaders should ever be in position to advise the people responsible for our security.

    8879 Rev. Nancy Nourse I am a minister in the United Church of Canada. I often seek out the United Methodist Church’s ideas, theology, and social stance when requiring additional research. I admire your stance on this and support this petition.

    8884 gail koenig i was brought up in Station Road methodist church, wallsend, england and still consider myself methodist–even though its the united church in Canada that i am a member of if any one asks my religion i always say methodist i still keep in contact with several church mambers and my sister was a member–she has since died.

    8893 Rev. Del Roper I am a retired United Methodist pastor in the Nebraska Annual Conference. I oppose having President George W. Bush’s Presidential Library on the SMU campus for a number of reasons. Among them is this: George W. Bush refused to grant an audience to the bishops of The United Methodist Church who wanted to reason with him regarding the morality of entering into the Iraq War. He has not honored the tradition and doctrines of his own denomination. Why is he now so eager to be affiliated with a United Methodist university?

    8802 Jennifer Bishop-Jenkins I attend Kenilworth Union Church, an independent protestant church, but am a religious studies major and history minor graduate of SMU, class of 1978. I cannot agree more strongly with this petition. I was absolutely HORRIFED at the thought of SMU becoming the home of the Bush Library. I will personally commit to leading a campaign in the Chicago area with every single SMU alum to withhold all of our financial support of the University if they agree to house this historical travesty.

    9025 JAMES RICHARD WEAVER, JR. long time United Methodist member SMU Mustang Club double graduate from SMU \’61 and \’64 we got over the death penalty in athletics but this boondoogle is permanent !

    9026 Dr. Laura Stivers Associate Professor of Religion and Philosophy Pfeiffer University (Methodist affiliated) Misenheimer, North Carolina

    8954 T. Walter Herbert First United Methodist Church, Georgetown Retired after 30 years at Southwestern University, a Methodist institution. President Bush has grossly violated Methodist social principles in initiating an unprovoked war of aggression in Iraq, in sponsoring torture, and in violating God-given rights of American citizens that are defined in the Constitution he is sworn to uphold.

    8909 Ambra Reedy Hyde Pard United Methodist, Austin,Texas As a fifth generation methodist, I object to the Bush library being a part of the United Methodist Church!

    8914 Aimie Coe My family supports the President. Have any of you appeasers criticized the islamic radicals? Have you criticized professor churchills remarks at the U of Colorado calling the 9-11 victims “little Eichmanns?” We all know the answer! You posture and pontificate about academic freedom and institutions being a place to hear all sides and seek the truth. Your hypocritical actions show this to be another of your lies. You only want to hear viewpoints that fit yur narrow liberal views, and you try to squash all others. Tell me, what is the differance between you and the taliban? None, that I can see..

    8936 Stan Current Roman Catholic, Denver, Colorado. I was living in Omaha, Nebraska in February 2003 when the United Methodist Church of Omaha held an interdenominational prayer service and forum against going to war in Iraq. There was a large turnout, standing room only. We were all opposed to President Bush and his plan to invade Iraq. I was impressed that the Methodist Church had the courage to sponsor this event and voice opposition to President Bush when so many were in support of him. It is sad that the SMU Administration still supports President Bush. They obviously share his lack of honesty and ethics. They are more intererested in prestige and financial gain in housing Bush’s library. I believe that God disapproves of President Bush and his bloody war in Iraq. It would be wrong for SMU to honor such a man with so much blood on his hands and failure to follow through on his campaign promises, most notably, funding for faith-based initiatives.

    8944 Hal Hefner Wonder why the methodist church is losing members and students in their schools at a rapid rate. Just look at the opinions on this petition. You would think they would fire thir board of bishops instead of depending on them for guidance. No wonder President Bush declined to meet with them concerning our preemptive strike at Iraq. They can’t even run a sucessful denomination and keep it thriving, let alone have any concept of what dangers lurk for this country from the terrorists. Isn’t it true that the same genre of religious adviser were telling the British and French governments that Hitler was not a threat and could be reasoned with in the ’30s? See where that led us! God forbid that these false leaders should ever be in position to advise the people responsible for our security.

    8879 Rev. Nancy Nourse I am a minister in the United Church of Canada. I often seek out the United Methodist Church’s ideas, theology, and social stance when requiring additional research. I admire your stance on this and support this petition.

    8884 gail koenig i was brought up in Station Road methodist church, wallsend, england and still consider myself methodist–even though its the united church in Canada that i am a member of if any one asks my religion i always say methodist i still keep in contact with several church mambers and my sister was a member–she has since died.

    8893 Rev. Del Roper I am a retired United Methodist pastor in the Nebraska Annual Conference. I oppose having President George W. Bush’s Presidential Library on the SMU campus for a number of reasons. Among them is this: George W. Bush refused to grant an audience to the bishops of The United Methodist Church who wanted to reason with him regarding the morality of entering into the Iraq War. He has not honored the tradition and doctrines of his own denomination. Why is he now so eager to be affiliated with a United Methodist university?

    8802 Jennifer Bishop-Jenkins I attend Kenilworth Union Church, an independent protestant church, but am a religious studies major and history minor graduate of SMU, class of 1978. I cannot agree more strongly with this petition. I was absolutely HORRIFED at the thought of SMU becoming the home of the Bush Library. I will personally commit to leading a campaign in the Chicago area with every single SMU alum to withhold all of our financial support of the University if they agree to house this historical travesty.

    9056 Lloyd Tatum I agree that this library should not be on a methodist campus. Why should the legacy of a man of convictions, morals, and understanding of evil be associated with church of pharisees and eccesiastical pin-heads? This church is an empty shell, losing membership every year and dominated by the most decadent set of bishops who should be called mullahs instead. For God;s sake, Mr. Bush, take your membership out of this nest of vipers and cess-pool waders.

    9062 Joe Blalock CAn you people join me in a “hate America and George Bush rally” in one week in the local methodist church san francisco bathhouse? We can kumbaya while singing “kill another baby and call it freedom of choice” and then we can hear speeches from professor churchill of U of colorodo about how you can join his cause in blaming every ill in the world on American and the President. You are my kind of people, liberal nit-wits, whose hands run red with the blood of American soldiers you have betrayed to the terrorists..

    9067 Beth McGee I am a former United Methodist church member and a current AME Zion member and I think it is a mistake to allow the Bush Library to be established at SMU. This is a president who touts how God guides his decicions to take us to war, to starve people and to keep them from health care….unless they’re rich mind you. And yet, he doesn’t allow Methodist Ministers to advise him because the Methodist Church takes an opposing position on the war in Iraq. I don’t know that I’ve ever seen that he goes to church on Sunday either. What’s up with that? A Methodist/Christian in name only, not by deed. Don’t do it please!

    9085 Audrey Wilson United Methodist membership. I am 90 years old but I am alert enough to know that a George W. Bush Library, Museum, Think Tank presence on a church-related United Methodist campus is an insult to the integrity of United Methodism.

    8747 Dean A. Sanders Baptized and confirmed First Church, Bowie, Texas affliate member First Church, Wichita Falls, Texas Southern Methodist University; Bachelor of Science 1977 (magna cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa) Money and prestige, if we accept, so the argument goes; loss of honor, somehow, if we do not. Consider however that education is a hallmark of Methodism’s ministry to the world, and SMU is our beau ideal of that part of our faith. The library would demean, diminish and deprecate us. Boiled down, John Wesley would not approve.

    9127 Rev. Dr. Joseph Larson Graduate of Perkins School of Theology & UM Pastor. If it happens, it’s a travesty! It’s another example of the church compromising and prostrating itself to the whims of fundamental Republican plutocrats who see dollar signs and prestige rather than academic and spiritual freedom. If It’s built, it is sending a terribly wrong message by a Prostestant demonmination that purports to have “open minds.”

  8. Andrew Weaver says:

    Thursday’s Children by Cynthia B. Astle
    January 25th, 2007

    Remember the old nursery rhyme:
    “Monday’s child is fair of face,
    “Tuesday’s child is full of grace,
    “Wednesday’s child is full of woe,
    “Thursday’s child has far to go,
    “Friday’s child is loving and giving,
    “Saturday’s child works hard for his living
    “And the child that’s born on the Sabbath day
    “Is good and kind and fair and gay.”

    I’ve decided to title the editor’s blog “Thursday’s Children” because I intend to use it for items that won’t wait for UM NeXus’ next weekly deadline (each Tuesday). Thursday is also the start of a new editorial cycle, so I do indeed have “far to go” by this time.

    I also plan to shed some light on the editorial philosophy of our publication and give some behind-the-headlines insights on how we do what we do. I hope you find these musings worthy of comment and conversation.

    Also starting this week is our promised Blogroll of noteworthy blogs by United Methodists. Our first choice is “Howe About,” written by the Rev. Leroy Howe, a retired professor from Perkins School of Theology. I think you’ll find his writing insightful. Our thanks to Dr. Richard Heitzenreiter of Duke Divinity School for recommending Howe About. To suggest your favorite UM blog, email me at editor@umnexus.org, with “Blogroll” in the subject line.

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    This week’s NeXus comes to you from chilly, rainy Florida, where I’m telecommuting while taking care of important family business (see Commentary in the Jan. 24 NeXus for the story).

    Aside from being away from my usual routine, the most trying part of this week has been fielding the angry, abusive emails from folks who oppose the Protect SMU online petition. In case you’ve been on Saturn the past two months, Protect SMU is the latest episode in the debate over Southern Methodist University’s bid to be the site of the proposed George W. Bush Presidential Library and a companion think-tank dedicated to promoting conservative thinking.

    UM NeXus played a role in this debate by publishing the original essay, “Bush Library: Asset or Albatross?” written by Susanne Johnson, a Perkins professor, and William McElvaney, professor emeritus. To the best of my knowledge ­ and correct me if I’m wrong ­ NeXus was the first publication beyond the SMU Campus Daily to bring the opposition to international notice. It’s only since the first of the year that Big Media has jumped on the story, starting with the United Methodist Reporter and rippling outward to secular pubs (that’s short for “publications”.)

    And therein lies the rub of the week, because a lot of folks who didn’t read the essay when it was originally published Dec. 6 are now getting fired up ­ both pro and con ­ by Johnson and McElvaney’s argument.

    Now that this week’s NeXus is out, I find myself puzzled and distressed by these observations:

    1) People don’t seem to realize, when the follow the link from the Protect SMU petition, that they’ve entered another site. This shows a lack of online media skills that can be an impediment to making the best use of media.

    2) Most angry emails are addressed to McElvaney, not Johnson. While McElvaney has been more the public spokesman, this thing actually started with Johnson’s theological and ethical research, and she’s been in enough stories to have a public persona. What does this say about cultural sexism?

    3) Finally, even allowing for emotion clouding intellect, most of the emails have been “ad hominem” attacks on Bush Library opponents ­ meaning that instead of debating the merits of the argument, writers have demeaned and dismissed the library opponents as people. (sounds like a familiar pattern to me – – -r)

    Believe it or not, the seriousness of the last observation hit me last night as I was watching a rerun of “Law & Order: SVU” on cable. (Cable TV is a luxury for me; we don’t have it at our house because of the expense and the poor performance of the local provider). Anyway, the story was about someone killing prostitutes, and one callous cop suggested they put “NHI” on the report. “NHI” stood for “No Human Involvement.”

    And of course, as history shows, the moment we cease to view our opponents as people ­ as in the Shoah of the Jews under the Nazis, or apartheid in South Africa, or the Hutus’ massacre of the Tutsis in Rwanda, or now in Darfur, Sudan ­ in that moment, it becomes possible to harm or even kill them without compunction.

    Indeed, as Thursday’s Children, we have far to go.

  9. Andrew Weaver says:

    MORE GOOD, BAD AND UGLY ON http://WWW.PROTECTSMU.ORG PETITION

    9144 Joe San Diego Brethren Assemblies I am sick and tired of you leftist ministers who think the church is your little left wing activist pulpit. President Bush is a faithful member of the church who has a genuine faith experience that you secular, brainwashed ministers cannot hope to understand. Here is an idea, how about preaching the Gospel? Remember that thing– the fundamental teachings of the Faith? That Christ was manifested in the Flesh and saved us from our sins? Or perhaps, you have your noses too far up the butts of Michael Moore and Ted Kennedy. You are disgraceful.

    8747 Dean A. Sanders Baptized and confirmed First Church, Bowie, Texas affliate member First Church, Wichita Falls, Texas Southern Methodist University; Bachelor of Science 1977 (magna cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa) Money and prestige, if we accept, so the argument goes; loss of honor, somehow, if we do not. Consider however that education is a hallmark of Methodism’s ministry to the world, and SMU is our beau ideal of that part of our faith. The library would demean, diminish and deprecate us. Boiled down, John Wesley would not approve.

    9127 Rev. Dr. Joseph Larson Graduate of Perkins School of Theology & UM Pastor. If it happens, it’s a travesty! It’s another example of the church compromising and prostrating itself to the whims of fundamental Republican plutocrats who see dollar signs and prestige rather than academic and spiritual freedom. If It’s built, it is sending a terribly wrong message by a Prostestant demonmination that purports to have “open minds.”

    9145 True Christian I’m against this petition and the unholy name calling it has caused. Why can’t we act like Christians? Maybe because most of you are not! I hope you can bring yourself to recognize you have formed an alliance with the devil in this crusade against this president. Recognize him for who he is, a Godly man, trying to lead this nation in a desperate battle against evil.

    9149 Tracy Green I attend Wesley United Methodist Church. I have been a Methodist all of my life, attending First UMC Weatherford as a child. I would be appalled for the worst president in the history of the United States to have a library at such a fine institution as SMU.

    9167 Les Benton I am outraged that people are permitted to lie and slander under the guise of Christianity such as the signers of this petition. This library will be built and endure for the ages while the whiney little left-wing pinkos who oppose it will not be heard of or cared about a year from now. This president stands head and shoulders above his detractors who are frustrated because he has hindered their aganda of evil and weakness. God bles the USA and God continue to bless President Bush.
    9164 Dr. William H. Wilson, M.Th. 76 Director of Connectional Ministries & Assistant to the Bishop, West Virginia Annual Conference, United Methodist Church

    9195 Major (Ret) Robert Hood Faith Lutheran Church, Columbus, Wisconsin. I was brought up as a Methodist and am truly shamed that the flagship school for my former faith would link itself to this immoral Administration. Thank you, Robert Hood, Major (Ret) US Army, Life Member Veterans of Foreign Wars & Disabled American Veterans.

    Andrew J. Weaver, Ph.D. is a United Methodist minister and research psychologist living in New York City. He has published over 150 scholarly articles in such journals as Professional Psychology, American Family Physician, American Psychological Association Monitor, Journal of Marital and Family Therapy, Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, Journal of Religion and Health, Journal of Psychology and Theology, Journal of Psychology and Christianity, Journal of Pastoral Care and Counseling, Pastoral Psychology, Social Work and Christianity, Mental Health, Religion and Culture, Issues in Mental Health Nursing, Southern Medical Journal, Cancer Nursing, Oncology Nursing Forum, Journal of Traumatic Stress, The American Journal of Hospice and Palliative Care, The Journal of Palliative Care and Adolescence. He is co – author of a dozen books including Counseling Troubled Teens, Pastoral Care of Older Adults, Counseling Families Across the Stages of Life, Counseling Survivors of Traumatic Events, Counseling on Sexual Issues, Reflections on Grief and Spiritual Growth and Reflections on Marriage and Spiritual Growth.
    Dr. Weaver has given numerous presentations, most recently at the American Psychological Association, The National Association of Jewish Chaplains, The Southern Medical Association and The Association of Professional Chaplains. He was awarded the Templeton Foundation Prize for Exemplary Paper on Religion and Behavioral Science three times.

  10. more comments from http://www.protectsmu.org

    9151 Dunbar Watt Centenary United Methodist Church, McComb, MS

    9211 Sidney G. Hall, III Senior Pastor, Trinity United Methodist Church Austin, Texas

    9210 Marion Provost Life long UM; have resided in 5 different Annual Conferences. I object to having this man’s library associated with United Methodism, because he has violated so many of our beliefs, in particular the Social Principles as well as so much of what the Bible teaches us.

    9205 Sharon Johnson Himsl United Methodist SMU is my alma mater. While establishment of the Bush library at SMU would sadden me, a Bush Institute would outrage me. Such an institute should have no connection with United Methodism.

    9217 George Cochrum First United Methodist Church, Missouri City TX I also am an alumni of SMU. I very strongly oppose anything that Bush has anything to do with. He is responsible for the needless deaths of thousands of people and soldiers

    9227 Gail E. Jordan Ashland United Methodist Church, Columbia, S.C. My nephew graduated from SMU in May, 2006. We are opposed to Bush’s War tactics and policies which have undermined this nation’s greatest strengths – its’ freedoms and recognizions of equality for all. How can SMU advocate anything that is going to remind us and the world of Bush’s failures and divisiveness- he will be forever remembered as being the worse president in the history of this nation – how can SMU be part of this legacy?? A neo-con think tank to be located on the SMU campus. Shame on the advocates and administration backing this ridiculous plan.

    9231 Michael Fuller Methodist. I hold an undergraduate and MBA from SMU. I sent both my boys to SMU. They hold undergraduate degrees and the youngest holds an additional Masters in Math. I have SMU in our family Trust and intended to leave money to the school for scholarships. If the Board of Trustees go through with this, I will change my plans. I cannot support this move to tarnish my school and it’s reputation by linking to this criminal.

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    9235 James O. Burch United Methodist Pastor, Retired Desert Southwest Annual Conference Perkins Graduate, Class of 1980 As a Perkins alum and the holder of another master’s degree from SMU, I urge the appropriate authorities to pass to another institution the privilege of a George W. Bush Presidential Library. My understanding is that Baylor University was also a finalist. I think, I hope, that Bush’s orientation is much closer to Baylor’s than it is to SMU’s. SMU’s history is rooted in the classical academic disciplines, with an emphasis on diversity of thought as well as clarity of expression. To have a George W. Bush Presidential Library affiliated with SMU would project an entirely different symbol.

    9237 Wayne Gorman I haven’t been to church in years, but I agree completely with United Methodists for not wanting the library. It makes total sense.

    9263 Blaine Hamilton Assembly of God & Perkins School of Theology Alum

    9261 Rev. Robert E. Hullstrung Retired Member, New York Annual Conference Though President Bush is a member of our UMC, his policies indicate his ignorance or arrogance as regards our Social Creed and Principles. Though the presence of his library and museum might be advantageous to SMU, it would be a disaster to our UMC as a whole. John Wesley must be turning over in his grave!

    9262 Rev. William B. Randolph United Methodist Pastor of Oak Grove and Rockford Street UMC in Western North Carolina Conference of the United Methodist Church, in Mt. Airy, NC. I think that allowing the Bush library on Conference and University Property would be tragic. The signature event of Pres. Bush’s legacy will be the immoral, unchristian, and failed war in Iraq, which the General Conference of the United Methodist Church, summarily condemned during General Conference in Pittsburgh in 2004. Moreover, there are many of us United Methodist who still believe that he should be put on trial for his membership in the UMC, because of lying (repeatedly in statements made both to the American People and in campaign speeches) and teachings that are counter to the polity of the UMC; a number of Clergy like myself signed a petition requesting the trial for only Pres. Bush of the Annual Conference where his church membership currently resides. Finally. I .remember that when he was governor that he refused to even meet with Texas Church leaders about the number and frequency of death warrants that he as governor was signing, because he was aware that he would be asked by them to suspend signing them because the official stance of General Conference and his own annual conference was to be opposed to Capital Punishment. It would be hypocritical to allow the Library on church land without protest, given this history with him and would say that all these differences, struggles, and protests really did not matter or were indeed wrong of us, because we have now accepted his library.

    9267 barry skiles As a graduate of SMU’s undergraduate school and law school and a member of the Methodist Church, I am profoundedly saddened at the prospect of George Bush being associated with my university. Such an association is antithetical to everything I learned at SMU and to everything that my wonderful university stands for. There is no humanity in George Bush and such an association will forever bring shame on this fine university. My best memories of SMU are of a place of learning which always focused on the grand liberal traditions of humanity in an effort to carry social justice and the Christian message throughout the world. The association of my university with a man like George Bush is a turning that I never dreamed could possibly ever happen.

    9285 Dan Jolly I support the President of our country. It is no accident that this man of God came to the leadership of this country in it’s moment of peril. I believe it was an act of the Almighty. No amount of appeasement by “effete snobs” who have no concept of geo-political affairs and certainly have no inside knowledge as to what dangers await us if we do not act. i’m always amazed when some snotty-nosed pastor of some snooty church thinks he’s such an authority of world affairs and military matters. Can you imagine methodist bishops trying to conduct WWII and the Normandy landing? No, they would have surrendered to the nazis right away rather than summon the courage and strength to resist. God ordains the right man at the right time at many instances of our history and George Bush is that man for this era. Future generations will pay homage for his leadership and strength against the islamic terrorists while the looney left-wing methodist ministers groveled and pleased for appeasement.

    9283 Les Benton I am outraged that people are permitted to lie and slander under the guise of Christianity such as the signers of this petition. This library will be built and endure for the ages while the whiney little left-wing pinkos who oppose it will not be heard of or cared about a year from now. This president stands head and shoulders above his detractors who are frustrated because he has hindered their aganda of evil and weakness. George Bush has more Christian principles than any of the methodist bishops and most of their weenie pastors. This church has become a cesspool of liberal left-wing America haters and pseudo-intellectuals. If Sodom and Gomorroh received the judgement of God, sure this decadent church wil receive the same. God bless the USA and God continue to bless President Bush.

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    9310 Concerned father When the nuclear dust settles and some of our cities burn and millions of our citizens are dead and horribly injured, I would like to retain the names on this petition so that we know who to blame. The sorry appeasers who made a pact with the devil to oppose anyone who stood up to the terrorists will wring their hands then, but can they bring back our dead. For the sake of our country and our children, please bring a halt to the ravings of these mini neville Chamberleins before the islamic nazis strike us again.

    9315 Jay Bird Want to see the modern day apostae church. The hate mongering duo of methodist and unitarians. Between them, they have no core beliefs other than “queer nation” parades are cool and abortion clinics are good business. No wonder they oppose a president who stands for babies and children, who tharts the plans of those who would reak havoc on our country, and who has exhibited truth and ethics in government. Their role model, of course, is bill clinton who was a fitting member of their church philosophy…wink at sin, spout ecclesiastical cliques, look sanctimonious, and indulge in debauchery. Oh yes, I forgot posture as a humanitarian.

    9348 david parish Duke University Chapel, George Bush is known by the world to be guilty of numerous crimes including violations of the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions, torture, lying a nation and the world into war etc. etc. It would be a further crime to allow the association of this mans sins with any Church or Univesity, thank you

    9355 Lonnie Cloy Carpenter As an alumnus of Perkins School of Theology (1943), I want to protest the plan for establishing a presidential library at SMU. Bush\’s actions as President have been nowhere close to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Perkins

    9359 Stephen Lee United Methodist pastor with theology and sacred music degrees from SMU

    9366 Bill Jones I am a lay member of Wilshire Baptist Church, Dallas; George W. Bush acts out his faith in a way that is totally contrary to the grace that was taught and lived by the Prince of Peace. His library would be a blight on the Dallas landscape and bring eternal shame to a great institution (SMU) and to The United Methodist Church, for which I – as a Baptist – have long had great admiration.

    9381 Charles F. Hahn Retired United Methodist Minister, Southwest Texas Conference SMU Graduate: BA ’52, BD ’55 What George W. Bush has stood for is not in keeping with social traditions of our church. To have his library on the SMU campus would be to subvert especially the Socail Creed, and practically every item in the Book of Resolutions relating to social issues.

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    9444 malcolm smith As one born and raised in the Methodist Church and as a life long Republican I am out -raged by George Bush’s acts and arrogant attitude. His doctrine of preventative war is in itself enough to prevent his name being put on any building, chair or even scholarship.

    9437 Martha A Holmes I am a Catholic alumna of Southern Methodist University, graduated 1996. I am a former member of the Cox School of Business Alumni Board of Directors.

    9418 Steven H Miles, MD SMU is not honored by having a library associated with a president who laid a policy foundation for torture by “suspending” the Geneva Conventions, shielded torturers from accountability, and who promoted military leaders who allowed torture on their watch. Our family are active members of Shir Tikvah Congregation in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

    9454 Robert Briden Wesley United Methodist Church Lincoln, R.I. While President Bush continuously gives the impression that he follows the Lords ways, his actions of misleading the American people, scarificing innocent lives for some cause that changes with the wind (or lack of truth), his disregard for the environment, lack of respect for the poor and empowerment of the rich and big business seems to run contrary to everything Christianity stands for. Someone should remind him that it is the meek that will inherit the earth.

    9455 Andrew Gustafson Central United Methodist Church Waterford, Michigan I am deeply saddened that our Methodist University would even consider housing any presidential library. How can we follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and God, and then house a political library which seems to be polar opposite to the beliefs of most Christian organizations.

    9505 Les Beazley As a veteran who fought to protect your scurvy hides, I resent a bunch of lily-livered cowards like most of you lying about the President’s record. This man has personified honor and integrity under the most hateful onslaught by the lib-nazis that you could imagine. It’s amazing that he has not fought back, but this is a forgiving and honorable man with his eyes fastened on a goal of protecting us and our children; yes even you worthless scum who hate him so much.

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    9602 H.L.Meschke 53 year member of Vinvent United Methodist Church in Minot, ND (retired Justice of the ND Supreme Court)

    \ 9599 darlene birgel Wimberley UMC , Wimberley, Tx – I feel that Pres Bush does not meet our Christian doctrine of peace and justice.

    9600 Mary Ann Rolloff Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)

    9593 Rev. Jim Conn Director of New Ministries California-Pacific Conference United Methodist Church

    9580 Jolie Kobrinsky SMU Graduate, MFA Theatre 1991, Mother, wife, concerned citizen

    9578 Rev. Jim Lewis Episcopal minister. Congratulations on this petition. I admire your courage and testimony.

    9573 Kyle Thomas Wierick St. Lukes United Methodist Church Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

    9559 Matthew Dekneef Trinity United Methodist church Pearl City, Hi 96782
    9558 Rev. Marsha Acord I am a United Methodist minister serving the Wesley Foundation at The University of Iowa, Iowa City. I urge the Board and the South Central Jurisdiction to reject associating a United Methodist university with the George W. Bush presidency. This presidency does not uphold the UM social priniciples especially regarding the death penalty, war and poverty. This association would be a travesty and a terrible precedent.
    9556 Carol McGlinchey My mother, Jeanette McGlinchey Burton, was the first female ordained pastor in the Southern New England Methodist Conference. We are lifelong Methodists. As a Methodist, I have always supported peace and social justice. As a Christian, I must be a pacifist as “Thou Shalt Not Kill” is an important Christian tenet. It does not have exceptions and war is not ever justified in the name of Christ. I cannot and will not support having the George W. Bush library at SMU for the above stated reasons. I commend Methodist pastors for this petition. If George W. Bush was truly a Methodist and a Christian he would never promote war or abuse his power as U.S. President.

    9546 Marvin W. Cropsey Grace United Methodist Church Mount Juliet, Tennessee

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    10005 Maria I. Chiu Methodist. I am the wife of Marine. Some of our friends have died in Iraq and left behind families. Unless you have lived the life of a military family you can not know the heartache and dread that fills all of us. Our men in uniform are honorable and brave. Bush will never reach the high standards of our men and women in uniform. If SMU wants a library then dedicate to our military men and women who have paid the highest price in Iraq and who are deserving of this library. I will be ashamed to send my children to SMU should this library be built for Bush.

    10008 Rev. Dr. Theodore Loder First United Methodist Church of Germantown, retired. It is totally inappropriate for a university designated as having a strong United Methodist affiliation to be the host site for the Presidential Library of a man who, while professing his allegiance to the Christian faith, consistently makes policy decisions radically inconsistent with the traditional social values of the United Methodist Church. To accept this administrations Presidential Library would make a travesty of what the United Methodist Church and SMU hold as the core of Christian gospel and the meaning of liberal education. It is one thing, and commendable, to entertain differing views and interpretations but quite another, and objectionable, to promote such a prominant symbol of a public official who has slandered in word and action the very meaning of liberal education and its religious underpinning.

    10004 Bin Laden Again I greet my fellow zealots. My how you burn in your fanatical hatred towards this president. I am surprised since many of you surpass me and my followers. I sense from your burning comments tha tmany of you are ready to formally join our cause. We need to get you organized in cells and teach you the fine arts of getting really down to business in dealing with the conservatives who oppose us. You know of what I speak. for the weak-hearted among you, continue on in the manner you excel inn stifling dissent, spreading lies, and screaming so loudly that no conservative can be heard. You all realize that our vaunted freedom of speech does not include them. They are true believers and not worthy of having a voice in our world or yours. The very idea of a conservative think tank. We only have an few dozen ourselves and there is certainly not room for one that holds our agenda up for scrutiny. Onward fellow jihadists.

    9992 Ronald Burris I am a 64 year old member of the Trinity United Methodist Church in Iola, Kansas. I urge that the Board of Trustees not allow President Bush to put his library on SMU grounds.

    9921 Ann Snee Roman Catholic, St Joan of Arc, South Park, PA George W. Bush is the antithesis of a Christian. Jesus promoted LOVE, PEACE, HOPE, not hate, fear and destruction of all you don’t agree with. Where in the Bible does Jesus preach greed, wealth and stealing from the poor? This man is a discrace and embarrassment not only to SMU, but to the entire USA. I’m glad someone is FINALLY taking a stand against him.

    9924 John Dorroh I am a member of the United Methodist Church, having joined First Methodist Church of Houston in 1955. Last year I enrolled in Perkins as a non-degree student and was fortunate to be in Dr. Clark-Soles’ Introduction to the New Testament. It would be very unfortunate to have any institution associated with this presidency on the grounds of SMU or affiliated with it in any way. And on the other hand, it would be highly appropriate to reject his bid, thus sending him a message on how Methodists and the students and alumni of SMU really judge his presidency. Just because he is a member of Highland Park does not mean he understands the doctrine and messages of the United Methodist Church. Indeed his actions and words both speak in a completely different tone. PLEASE PLEASE do not just accept the library at SMU. At the least, have some of Bush’ s representatives come to the campus and explain why they REALLY want to put the library at SMU.

    9939 Sam Nance I grew up Presbyterian, and have been a member of the Mennonite Church for thirty-five years. I have worked with Methodists on many projects over the years and admire their witness of the gospel message of Jesus Christ. While I cannot comment on the authenticity of the faith of President Bush, I can observe that the image he presents of Christianity (his witness) does not match the gospel of peace that Christ brings. His actions do not match Christ’s words. The library at SMU would tarnish the reputation of the school.

    9940 Junior Samples What is with the lib-nazis that they can’t stand any viewpoint but their own. Ae you jerks so incestous that you are afraid of conservatives. Yes, indeed, you are. It points out your blatant hypocrisy and holds up a mirror to your hideous actions. I’ve never ceased to be amazed that the lib-nazis are the most intolerant people in the country except when the subject is pornography, criminal behaviour, homosexual marriage, or baby-killing. It seems that most of you have no core principles or anything that you oppose other that George Bush. He is a symbol to you of everything that you hate, believe in God, firmness, and devotion to God and country.

    9949 Carolyn White First United Methodist – Idabel, OK 74745

    9869 Arden C. Hander Pennsylvania Southeast Conference of the United Chuirch of Christ [UCC], Minister with Standing I was baptized Methodist at Perry M.C. near Marlin in 1935 & hope that this makes me enough Methodist to sign. I am vehemently opposed to such a Library being associated with ANY normative religious institution, for W’s fundamentalism, support of torture & a war-of-choice has not only damned Iraq & its citizenry but ours, the U.S., as well. W. has bastardized Christianity with his profane actions, ethical compromises & fraud as a daily practice. I sign the Not-At-SMU petition with great pride, as a religious professional, as a concerned citizen & as an individual committed to Peace. W. is none of these &, therefore, inappropriate for Mainline Protestant association. SMU must not proceed with this infamy.

    9891 Julia Harper As an alumni of SMU, I am horrified at the thought of having a George W Bush library located there. Hosting a memorial to the worst president in the history of the country is a pretty bad idea!!!!

    9892 Bradley S. Fuerst Lutheran ELCA – As a seminarian in my final semester of preparation for ordained ministry, and as such, one who looks forward to full-communion with the UMC, I am against any association SMU would establish with a president who has apostacized the Christian Faith. George W. Bush is a dissembler of truth and a wager of unjust war according to Christian Just War criteria. If this is not reason enough to oppose a library erected in his honor at SMU, then let the Board of Trustees be mindful that Pres. Bush has yet to repent his policies, both international and domestic, that are incompatible with Christ teachings – a call for repentence that was issued by 120 UMC members, including 7 Bishops in June of 2003. Bush has very little reverence for his Methodist denomination let alone the Lord he claims to follow. I pray SMU will be a school of principle rather than prestige. If prestige should prevail, please…at least be honest and drop “Methodist” from the school’s name.

    9824 Paul Nixon Alabama-West Florida conference clergy We cannot and should not have a museum honoring a leader who trashed the very foundation of just war theory at an institution owned by The United Methodist Church. This man has utterly betrayed the social principles of Methodism.

    9752 Carolyn Clark Life long Methodist parishoner. It’s ludicrous to me that Bush can stand at the podium and say that human life is precious (in regard to abortions) while he sends our children to the middle east to be slaughtered. He makes no sense. In my opinion it will take many miracles to undo the harm that the current “administration” has rendered unto its own country and the world.

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    10006 Rev. Dr. Theodore Loder First United Methodist Church of Germantown, retired. It is totally inappropriate for a university designated as having a strong United Methodist affiliation to be the host site for the Presidential Library of a man who, while professing his allegiance to the Christian faith, consistently makes policy decisions radically inconsistent with the traditional social values of the United Methodist Church. To accept this administrations Presidential Library would make a travesty of what the United Methodist Church and SMU hold as the core of Christian gospel and the meaning of liberal education. It is one thing, and commendable, to entertain differing views and interpretations but quite another, and objectionable, to promote such a prominant symbol of a public official who has slandered in word and action the very meaning of liberal education and its religious underpinning

    10015 Sondra Skinner Current membership is at The First United Methodist Church in Boise Idaho. I am the great granddaughter, great niece and cousin of great Methodist ministers and part of a family of actuve Methodists for 200 years. This presidents behavior is not what we want to remember in association with a Methodist University or any foundation that is associated with Methodism. I am so proud of this action that is being by Methodists.

    10019 Julie Wycoff Monk Member of First UMC in Corvallis, Oregon and Dir of Youth Ministries since 1996. I am also a lifelong member of the UMC, and find it offensive that a UMC-related university would host a tribute to President Bush. As I recall, he refused to meet with the Council of Bishops and has acted in direct opposition to the official teachings of the UMC. My parents & grandparents were UMC/ME and my husband is a son of a UMC retired pastor.

    10043 Samuel V. Haynes Methodist. Graduate of SMU. Have always been extremely proud of the freedom of thought experienced at SMU. Cannot stand the thought of having the school associated with the George Bush ideology of thoughtless greed.

    10006 Rev. Dr. Theodore Loder First United Methodist Church of Germantown, retired. It is totally inappropriate for a university designated as having a strong United Methodist affiliation to be the host site for the Presidential Library of a man who, while professing his allegiance to the Christian faith, consistently makes policy decisions radically inconsistent with the traditional social values of the United Methodist Church. To accept this administrations Presidential Library would make a travesty of what the United Methodist Church and SMU hold as the core of Christian gospel and the meaning of liberal education. It is one thing, and commendable, to entertain differing views and interpretations but quite another, and objectionable, to promote such a prominant symbol of a public official who has slandered in word and action the very meaning of liberal education and its religious underpinning

    10015 Sondra Skinner Current membership is at The First United Methodist Church in Boise Idaho. I am the great granddaughter, great niece and cousin of great Methodist ministers and part of a family of actuve Methodists for 200 years. This presidents behavior is not what we want to remember in association with a Methodist University or any foundation that is associated with Methodism. I am so proud of this action that is being by Methodists.

    10019 Julie Wycoff Monk Member of First UMC in Corvallis, Oregon and Dir of Youth Ministries since 1996. I am also a lifelong member of the UMC, and find it offensive that a UMC-related university would host a tribute to President Bush. As I recall, he refused to meet with the Council of Bishops and has acted in direct opposition to the official teachings of the UMC. My parents & grandparents were UMC/ME and my husband is a son of a UMC retired pastor.

    10043 Samuel V. Haynes Methodist. Graduate of SMU. Have always been extremely proud of the freedom of thought experienced at SMU. Cannot stand the thought of having the school associated with the George Bush ideology of thoughtless greed.

    10006 Rev. Dr. Theodore Loder First United Methodist Church of Germantown, retired. It is totally inappropriate for a university designated as having a strong United Methodist affiliation to be the host site for the Presidential Library of a man who, while professing his allegiance to the Christian faith, consistently makes policy decisions radically inconsistent with the traditional social values of the United Methodist Church. To accept this administrations Presidential Library would make a travesty of what the United Methodist Church and SMU hold as the core of Christian gospel and the meaning of liberal education. It is one thing, and commendable, to entertain differing views and interpretations but quite another, and objectionable, to promote such a prominant symbol of a public official who has slandered in word and action the very meaning of liberal education and its religious underpinning

    10015 Sondra Skinner Current membership is at The First United Methodist Church in Boise Idaho. I am the great granddaughter, great niece and cousin of great Methodist ministers and part of a family of actuve Methodists for 200 years. This presidents behavior is not what we want to remember in association with a Methodist University or any foundation that is associated with Methodism. I am so proud of this action that is being by Methodists.

    10019 Julie Wycoff Monk Member of First UMC in Corvallis, Oregon and Dir of Youth Ministries since 1996. I am also a lifelong member of the UMC, and find it offensive that a UMC-related university would host a tribute to President Bush. As I recall, he refused to meet with the Council of Bishops and has acted in direct opposition to the official teachings of the UMC. My parents & grandparents were UMC/ME and my husband is a son of a UMC retired pastor.

    10043 Samuel V. Haynes Methodist. Graduate of SMU. Have always been extremely proud of the freedom of thought experienced at SMU. Cannot stand the thought of having the school associated with the George Bush ideology of thoughtless greed.

    10051 L. Lucille Finney 1st UMC of Inverness, FL I’ve been a Methodist for my entire life and I’m now 90 years old.

    10057 J. Peters My fellow “PIMPS (pompous,idiots,morons,pricks) Against George Bush,” I am honored to have you as participating members of our group. Our aim is to stifle dissent, heap scorn on other viewpoints, and tell outrageous lies. You do us proud and you are worthy members of our cause. We hate this president because he has professed Christ and because he has protected us from the terrorists. I encourage all of you, fellow PIMPS.

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    10110 Jake /Bellamy Hypocrite lib-nazis. On a one of the pathetic bishops of the umc who signed this petition have any concept of the true meaning of Christ’s teaching. Their degrees and schooling at lib schools merely served to reinforce theri already liberal biases. George Bush has done more for the poor and downtrodden than all the snobs of the umc combined. He was divinely ordained for this crucial time in our nation’s history to lead our country through this peril. You lib-nazis can spout your hateful bile long and loud, but thie president is not deterred from what most intelligent people know has to be done. That is, to defeat this radical islamic fascist enemy that threatens to destroy many of our cities. He will succeed and this library will be built as a monument to one of the most Godly presidents we have had the fortune to have lead this nation. God bless him and bless the U.S.A.

    10111 Sargeant Major All of you are America’s axis of idiots. Your Collective Stupidity will destroy us. Self-serving politics and terrorist-abetting news scoops are more important to you than our national security or the lives of innocent civilians and Soldiers. It bothers you that defending ourselves gets in the way of your elitist sport of politics and your ignorant editorializing. There is as much blood on your hands as is on the hands of murdering terrorists. Don’t ever doubt that. Your frolics will only serve to extend this war as they extended Vietnam. If you want our Soldiers home, as you claim, knock off the crap and try supporting your country ahead of supporting your silly political aims and aiding our enemies. Yes, I’m questioning your patriotism. Your loyalty ends with self. I’m also questioning why you’re stealing air that decent Americans could be breathing. You don’t deserve the protection of our men and women in uniform. You need to run away from this war, this country. Leave the war to the people who have the will to see it through and the country to people who are willing to defend it.

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    10143 Laura Hendrix-Branch Miller I am the great-grandaughter of Bishop Eugene R. Hendrix and the great-great-granddaughter of Rev. Nathan Scarritt, both highly esteemed in the Methodist Church. I am sure my ancestors would not approve of this president and his misguided policies, nor in any way want to be affiliatied with him.

    10076 Chris Moody-Roudebush I am a United Methodist first; also, the secretary for an United Methodist church in Ohio; also, my father was an United Methodist minister. I strongly object to Bush’s name and policies being linked with our church. Let history tell the story, and not through our United Methodist University.

    10077 Richard Truitt Ministerial delegate to 7 sessions of the General Conference, Chairperson, Division of World Peace of the General Board of Church & Society ’72 to ’80, pastor of 4 congregations and served as District Supt for 6 years.

    10096 Mary Lyon Roman Catholic – I don’t see how ANY church can agree to ANY involvement with the Bush library. The costliest library for the absolute worst-ever president? Excuse me? I think there are MANY greater uses for all that money than to squander it on a shrine to a “president” known for lying America into a war that has killed thousands – strictly for greed, power, and oil. Is THAT a message to which ANY religious institution would wish to be connected?

    10100 Sister Pamela M. Gross Roiman Catholic nun–I signed because I side with faculty and all who protest this. Why? Because I am a retired Professor of history and the last thing I would want to be associated with is George W. Bush–i would not his library anywhere near me and my students. I support the facultywho are sisting his taint!

    10056 J. Peters My fellow “PIMPS (pompous,idiots,morons,pricks) Against George Bush,” I am honored to have you as participating members of our group. Our aim is to stifle dissent, heap scorn on other viewpoints, and tell outrageous lies. You do us proud and you are worthy members of our cause. We hate this president because he has professed Christ and because he has protected us from the terrorists. I encourage all of you, fellow PIMPS.

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    10258 Ruediger R. Minor Bishop, retired The United Methodist Church Dresden, Germany (formerly of Moscow, Russia)

    10218 Anonymous Supervisor – United Methodist Publishing House Anonymous for fear of retribution.

    10223 Sandra Black First United Methodist Church Cary, NC I am one of many who have had a great deal of difficulty reconciling the policies of this administration with Christ’s teachings. This does not belong at a university bearing the Methodist name.

    10224 Michelle Barton First United Methodist Church, Des Moines, IA It is very sad to see my beloved alma mater linked to this president who has killed so many and sinned so much.

    10250 Jose Bulatao, Jr. West Kauai United Methodist Church Being dismayed and disappointed with President George W. Bush’s policies, I would prefer that his legacy of accomplishments be housed elsewhere.

    10169 Kyle England Lay member, Brainerd United Methodist Church Chattanooga, Tennessee I feel Bush could find a more suitable place for his library/think tank to be located than on the campus of SMU. Why not have it located in Crawford? I, too, do not wish for the word _Methodist_ to be associated with this president’s choices.

    10192 Kathy Byrd Member of Wallingford United Methodist Church in Seattle Washington. I am against having George W Bush’s library, museum & think tank located at a Methodist university. His policies have led to actions that are clearly against everything Methodists believe and stand for. Attacking innocent civilians, unprovoked, in Iraq is just one example. The country and the region have been forever changed – for the worse – because of Pres. Bush’s singleminded desire for revege.

    10102 James Nagy I’m Lutheran. It was nice to hear that the churches of American are willing to stand up against torture and preemptive war attacks.

    10110 Jake /Bellamy Hypocrite lib-nazis. On a one of the pathetic bishops of the umc who signed this petition have any concept of the true meaning of Christ’s teaching. Their degrees and schooling at lib schools merely served to reinforce theri already liberal biases. George Bush has done more for the poor and downtrodden than all the snobs of the umc combined. He was divinely ordained for this crucial time in our nation’s history to lead our country through this peril. You lib-nazis can spout your hateful bile long and loud, but thie president is not deterred from what most intelligent people know has to be done. That is, to defeat this radical islamic fascist enemy that threatens to destroy many of our cities. He will succeed and this library will be built as a monument to one of the most Godly presidents we have had the fortune to have lead this nation. God bless him and bless the U.S.A.

    10121 Emily Boyles Woodlawn UMC, Augusta, GA As a life long Methodist, I am offended by this President’s actions, ie condoning even encouraging torture; his refusal to pursue peace, his personal greed and greed on behalf of a handful of obscenely wealthy families at the expense of our military and the citizens if Iraq. A Bush library sounds silly – almost as foolish as a Bush think tank. What an empty gesture. Who would want to study Bush policies except for their heuristic value – what never to do.

    10131 Rev. Timothy Stover Director, Wesley Foundation, Oregon State University I concur wholeheartedly that George W. Bush and his administration have consistently acted in ways which are a direct contradiction of our UM Social Principles.

    10143 Laura Hendrix-Branch Miller I am the great-grandaughter of Bishop Eugene R. Hendrix and the great-great-granddaughter of Rev. Nathan Scarritt, both highly esteemed in the Methodist Church. I am sure my ancestors would not approve of this president and his misguided policies, nor in any way want to be affiliatied with him.

  20. Marianna Haberle White says:

    I do not know why the word ‘Methodist’ continues to be in SMU’s name. As long as 15 years ago, recruited students were assured that SMU is not a ‘Methodist’ school, not a ‘religious’ school. As an alumna, I was then working with SMU to recruit local youth to attend SMU, and we were told to emphasize this fact.

    Now, politically liberal individuals associated with the school in whatever way are using Methodism as an excuse for promulgating their ‘hate George’ campaign.

    As an SMU graduate and as a descendant of one of the pastors involved in founding the institution, I am appalled.

  21. COMMENTS ON WWW,PROTECTSMU.ORG

    10305 Rev David J.Kerr Former President of the Methodist Church in Ireland (1998-99) Preacher at West Virginian Conference 1998 Speaker at Urban Ministry Conferences

    10311 Steve Taylor North Carolina Conference UMC Director of Missions Development Previously Commissioned Missionary Church and Community Worker

    10312 Ray Buchanan Virginia Conference elder in full connection serving ABLC appointment as founder & President of Stop Hunger Now

    10319 Robin Langford Duke Memorial United Methodist Church. I completely and wholeheartedly object to hosting the Bush library on the campus of any United Methodist university or institution.

    10356 Anonymous You bums are poor excuses for Christians yourselves. Jimmy “Mr. Peanut” Carter is an anti-Semite and will burn in Hell for ignoring God’s words. Bush makes many mistakes but at least he stands up to the satanic forces of Islam. I am an angry LCMS member.

    10354 Rev. Lawrence Willson, Ph.D. North Alabama Conference United Methodist Church

  22. COMMENTS FROM http://WWW.PROTECTSMU.ORG

    10473 Mary Caygill Methodist Church of New Zealand. I have served as a President of this Church and am currently serving as Principal of Trinity Methodist Theological College, Auckland, New Zealand

    10489 Kendall Young Wellspring UMC, Georgetown, Texas President George Bush, who said he would be compassionate and claims to be a “born again christian” has not acted in a manner that is the oposite of these ideals. He has harmed our nation deeply , particularly education. Preserving his philosphy in an institution supported by the Methodist church degrades the goals of education and will harm Sothern Methodist University.

    10490 Bob Blackmon Christ Church United Methodist, Troy, New York Bush is the worst president this country has ever had. There are hundreds of reasons why the G.W. Bush library should not be located at SMU. Not the least of those reasons is that he is an anti-intellectual. Virtually everything he has done has been contrary to Christian Theology. He lied to the country about going to war in Iraq. He has failed at everything he has ever done, including being president. He is still a juvenile delinquent!

    10500 Mary Uherek Trinity United Methodist Church in Austin, TX is my home church family. We strive to promote peace and justice throughout the world. I do not believe that President Bush had done enough to promote peace and justice during his 2 terms. Specifically, I believe he could\’ve avoided going to war by advocating non-violence and finding alternatives to war that were espoused by Martin Luther King, Ghandi and other great leaders. He also has not done enough to promote equality in domestic issues, but instead has helped the rich get richer. I don\’t believe he has demonstrated the Methodist values for peace, justice, equality, and compassion. He doesn\’t deserve to be honored by SMU by having his library there. He\’s been such a disappointment. My son in law is in IRAQ in the army and in great danger, because GW Bush didn\’t do enough to promote peace vs war. He even boasted early on that he wanted to remembered as the \”war\” president. This is not the message Methodist\’s preach!

    10408 Marci Spivey Trinity United Methodist Church For more than 40 years I’ve been a United Methodist, and in every church that I’ve attended, worshipped, studied and participated in activities of social justice and compassion, the “united” message has been: love, compassion, honesty, peace, justice and faith in God the Almighty and His Son, Jesus Christ. Establishing edifices at a Methodist institution of learning to a president whose personal statements and administration are anti-thetical to Methodist principles and practices would be a bizarre contradiction to these Wesleyan foundations and to Christianity.

    10410 Michelle Mitchell Member of Highland Park United Methodist Church on the SMU campus. I agree with this petition. This library would be a huge mistake for so many reasons. Please reconsider this decision and block this project.

    10419 L Holmes Some of the gutless jerks here can’t understand why normal people consider them unpatriotic and traitors. Let’s make it real plain! You are aiding and abetting the enemy. By slandering the troops and calling the war illegal and other names, you give credibility and hope to the bombers and butchers who blow up children. You discourage the troops who see their sacrifice belittled and shamed while they think they are serving in a great cause. You are directly responsible for the deaths of many of our troops by causing the butchers of al queda to try more savagery and brutality hoping to inflame public opinion against the war. Are you not saying the same thing as the butchers? Are you not their propaganda agents?

    10438 Rev. B. Strobel Christ United Methodist Church; Oregon-Idaho Conference. It will be important for the SMU Trustees to remember the contempt President G.W. Bush held towards the leaders of his own denomination (e.g. the Council of Bishops and the NCC) in the months leading up to the war. In addition, a majority of his policies have been antithetical to the Gospel message, prophetic witness and social principles of the United Methodist Church.

  23. 10688 Dennis A Kepner As a Methodist & 22 year veteran of the US Air Force with several tours of duty in Southeast Asia I am very concerned that President Bush’s war policies are antithetical to the beliefs of the Methodist Church. Placing the Bush library on the grounds of SMU I believe would give tacit approval and support of his administration’s warlike and colonial powers policies. Member Hampton UMC Hampton, NH 03842

    10689 Melissa Crutchfield United Methodist Bishop’s daughter and lifetime member of the United Methodist Church.

    10679 Rev. W. P. Ebenezer Joseph Dear Rev. Weaver, We in Sri Lanka are very happy about the stand you have taken with reference to the Southern Methodist Univeristy. It will be a great credit specially to the muslim community living among us for this bold initiative. Please be assured of the prayers and support of the Methodist Church in Sri Lanka. With best wishes and prayes, Yours sincerely, Rev. W P Ebenezer Joseph

    10664 Johan Presnick Do you people enjoy spouting and validating the propaganda of al qaeda, or is it that you are just ignorant of global events and geo-political happenings? How many American soldiers have died as a result of your giving aid and comfort to the terrorists, encouraging them in their evil deeds?

    10658 The Rev. M. Stanley Bain Keolumana United Methodist Church Clergy member of the California-Pacific Annual Conference I love my church and am proud of my denomination. Please do not saddle the United Methodist Church with the albatross of another reactionary “think” tank and thereby drag our good name through the mud.

    10630 Garber Fanny United Church of Canada I want to show solidarity to people who initiated and supported this petition. I will pray for your success as a Christian who believe that we must be One in proclaming and engaging oursellf for, Peace, Social Justice and Love as Jesus Christ teaches us.

    10557 Robert Dulaney Barrett retired clergy member of the NM Annual Conference and holder of three graduate degrees from SMU Perkins School of Theology AND extremely upset by SMU seeking the W. Bush library for its campus. W. has volated virtually, not all, of our UMC Social Principles.

    10563 Rev Andrew Shepherd-Dart I am Methodist Minister in the British conference and would like to support my colleagues in the UMC as they protest against this thoroughly inappropriate move to link the name of Methodists with this thoroughly misaligned Bush presidency

    10568 Joseph Wesley Mathews, Jr. I am not only signing this petition for myself, but for my father, Dr. Joseph Wesley Mathews, Sr. who passed away in October of 1977. My dad, a Methodist Minister, taught at Perkins at SMU from 1950 to 1955 before moving to Austin to work with Rev. Jack Lewis at the Christian Faith and Life Community. His passion was ethics which he not only taught but spent his whole being a symbol of the word as manifest in action. I am sure that he would have wanted to be a part of this effort as there seems to be a disturbing lack of ethical practice in Washington D.C., but none compare to G.W. Bush’s autocratic rule of his administration and his Party. His policies are diametrically opposed to the common ground expressed in the tenets of all religious doctrine. The president has brought this country into a profound moral crisis and that any university willing to house his legacy is simply beyond my comprehesion. Thank you and may GOD once again bless American.

    10577 Dante Zappala First United Methodist Church of Germantown–life long member, serve on SPRC and as an adult leader in the Sr. High Youth Group. I lost my brother in Iraq; he too was a Methodist. I find it hard to believe that the man who sent my brother to his death would be given a library at a Christian University.

    10578 Shirley C. Greagan Christ Church United Methodist, Troy, New York I believe the actions of this President have been uniformly contrary to the teachings of Christ, and completely inconsistent with Methodist principles of social justice, care and compassion for the needy, and peace-making. In my view, Southern Methodist University needs to make a choice between continuing to call itself Methodist and hosting the library.

    10579 David and Carol BUTLER David is a retired UMC pastor. Both of us served for over 35 years under the Board of Missions of the Methodist Church and then under the GBGM of the UMC. We would tend to oppose this kind of close affiliation with any UMC institution involving ANY independent think tank of any political flavor. In the present case, any entertainment of this affiliation seems shocking. We are greatly encouraged by the negative reactions that have already begun. THIS AFFILIATION SHOULD NOT GO FORWARD. The Rev. Dr. David and Carol BUTLER

    10591 Catherine Moore Member, Trinity United Methodist Church, Austin, TX. As a member of the United Methodist Church and a graduate of Southern Methodist University Law School, I vehemently oppose the prposed “W” library, museum and think tank, which would advocate for decades to come policies morally repugnant to United Methodist values , as well as legally repugnant to the Constitution of the United States. The proposed instituions would also create a terrorist target in the midst of students entrusted to SMU and pose a threat to a beautiful, historic area of Dallas.

    10531 Pat Beachum My son and daughter in law are both graduates of SMU and I am terribly ashamed of SMU for this objection to having the Bush Library there. You are all an embrassment to the city of Dallas!!!!!!!!!!!!!I belong to Park Cities Baptist Church

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